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the house budget committee where elements of a fiscal cliff deal are to be considered. meanwhile president obama held his ground insigs on higher tax rates for the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. >>> the political wrangling but a damper on wall street as stocks finished slightly lower in a light strad trading day. the dow jones industrial lost 13, the nasdaq shed 5. shares in oakland-based pandora are plum etting after hours. the internet radio company posted better-than-expected quarterly results but lowered its outlook for the rest of the fiscal year. the company is facing stiffer competition from the likes of apple and microsoft. both companies are launching their own music service. pandora shares dropped 17% after the closing bell. >>> now, numbers and new numbers show home sales in california remain steady, a sign of the recovering housing market, but as john reports, in one bay area community, the supply of homes on the market is as tight as can be. >> tuesday's in walnut creek are normally reserved for real estate brokers to tour each other's available homes, but today the inven
whatever deal they reach they have to get the votes for, and that's just the beginning. this fiscal cliff deal if they reach one it's just the beginning of deal making because it's not going to solve the problem. there is going to be more talks going into 2013 on tax reform and dealing with the deficit further. >> reporter: bob cusack thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. jon: let's talk a little bit more about the pickle that house speaker john boehner is in. he's struggling to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. he's facing growing criticism from members of his own party, the speaker removing four conservative congressman from key committees, the move seen by some as a way to close ranks over a potential fiscal cliff deal with the white house. outside conservative groups are voicing their displeasure saying speaker john boehner could even lose his speakership. carl cameron joins us live in washington. so he has a lot of problems with conservatives right now, car. >> reporter: sure it's not just off the hill. some of the members on the hill. fiscal conservative
president obama and speaker boehner, is it a sign we're close to a fiscal cliff deal? i asked cnn senior political analyst david gergen. >> they recognize the deadlines are coming at them fast and this week is a crucial week to see if they can get a breakthrough. they did it in private instead of the political theater we've been seeing is over the last couple weeks. i think that's encouraging. don, we should be patient here. there's even a bigger long-term issue and that is whether the kind of agreement they could reach now will lead to a grand bargain or whether it will lead to a mouse instead of an elephant. we don't know that yet. we'll have to wait and see how what they can craft this week and see indeed if they can get past the fiscal cliff. that's point one. in some ways, don, what's at stake here is whether they can craft a deal that's win/win. that each side can walk away from something in the short term saying we're encouraged, this gives us greater reason to go on and engage in the grand bargain next year. this is a moment, don, when a lot of things are hanging in the balance.
between president obama and speaker boehner, is it a sign that we are close to a fiscal cliff deal? i asked the senior cnn analyst, david gergen. >> this week is a crucial week to see if they can get a break through. in fact, they are willing to sit down and they did it in private, and instead of the political theater we have seen in the last few weeks i think that's encouraging. there's even a bigger long-term issue, and that is whether the kind of agreement they can reach now will lead to a grand bargain, or whether it's going to amount to a mouse instead of an elephant. we will have to see what they can craft this week and see if they can get passed the fiscal cliff. the bargain is really important, too. in some ways, don, what is at stake is whether they can craft a deal is that win/win. each side can walk away with something in the short term saying this is encouraging. this is a moment, don, when a lot of things are hanging in the balance. having them sit down today is encouraging because it means they don't want to take us all the way to the 11th hour and 59th minute. they want
billion from its budget over the next decade in case no fiscal cliff deal is scheduled. the military had been told for months not to get ready for these budget cuts. in the meantime, "the washington post" released a survey earlier this week. it found 53% of people polled would blame republicans for going over the cliff. 27% would blame president obama. not a lot of sunshine that we're seeing this these talks. >> i was telling mike, i was listening to an interview with trent lott, former leader back in the days in the clinton administration. he said he and daschle would good friends and that they worked on it but he was also criticized by his fellow republicans for being a compromiser. when did compromise get to be a dirty word. >> we've seen signs of compromise on the side of john boehner and seen republicans go after him for doing that. >> exactly. it's a price of being a leader. what do you have for us in the next half-hour? >> it's the season we're dressing up our homes with a lot of holiday decor. it looks fantastic but can also be a little dangerous. we'll run through some of the po
efforts to reach a deal over the fiscal cliff. the president needs to make the next move. >> it is not going to help our economy, and it is not going to help those seeking work. i came out to put revenues on the table and to take a step toward the president to resolve this. when is he going take a step toward us? >>> welcome back and time for a quick check of the head loins. headlines. john mcafee is fighting deportation from guatemala to belize. he is wanted for questioning in the death of a neighbor. he became a millionaire after developing anti-virus software. >>> and former south african president nelson mandela is undergoing testing at a hospital. the 94-year-old hasn't made public appearances for years. >>> and a massive typhoon devastating the philippines has made a u-turn. the storm already killed nearly 600 people, and now it is threatening to mick a second land -- threatening to make a second landfall. greg? >>> president obama asking pong for tens -- asking for tens and billions of dollars. he is calling for $64 billion for hard-hit new york and nerming new jer
a call after both traded fiscal cliff proposals. neither sealed a deal, so we're now 20 days away from almost $500 billion this automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. i sound like a broken record. along with the potential for a new recession. shannon travis is following the deal make. do we know what was in the proposals? >> we're getting details in drips and drabs. the white house has offered according to a source telling cnn to basically revise their revenue target. p president obama originally proposed $1.6 trillion in new revenue. he wants to raise the tax rates on the wealthiest americans. now we're being told that he's revised that number down to $1.4 trillion. that's obviously a difference of $200 billion. a democratic aide also telling cnn, i'll read the quote, that offer was coupled with a serious spending cut number with real entitlement reform. so that's from the white house side. on the counterproposal from the republicans, we don't have a lot of details on that, but from boehner's office, republicans are basically awaiting spending cut specifics from the white house. meanw
a fiscal cliff deal. >>> what makes a person black? my new documentary sparks conversation about the color of your skin and how it defines who you are. who is black in america? >>> you may start feeling less pain at the pump. gas prices are crashing and how long will it last? just ahead. >>> a mexican american singer, a superstar, dies in a plane crash. now her fans in mourning. we'll have details, straight ahead. >>> a packed two hours for you. new york mayor cory booker will join us. and poet journalist, angela davis will join us as well. gold medal olympic gymnast gabby douglas has written a new book. and judy chu is with us, and the macks join us, and singer adam lambert. monday, december 10th. and "starting point" begins right now. >>> wow, that's an ominous little graphic right there. yes that is because the fiscal cliff is what we're talking about this morning. that's the starting point. president obama and the house speaker speaking face to face for the first time in more than three weeks. the two men who stand between millions of americans and the fiscal cliff sat down, had a conv
things up by failing to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. but still, don't let it stop you from being really optimistic about the future. delta will buy up a 49% stake in virgin atlantic for $360 million. the deal creates a new joint venture between the two airlines spanning the atlantic ocean, virgin's founder sir richard branson is keeping his 51% stake in the company, but the move will significantly boost delta's international reach. i talked to delta ceo richard and irson earlier today. he says this is a move for more business and despite some rumors out there that delta wants to swallow up virgin, that simply doesn't make sense. talking about other things that don't make sense, anderson told me he would be in hot water if he ran delta like washington runs america. he also told me delta is getting ready for the fiscal cliff he hopes we don't go over. >> for the airline industry we almost have a perfect hedge against it. fuel prices will drop precipitously. and that's our largest cost. so we're a bit hedged against it. but if we, you know, we have contingency plans in place t
with the fiscal cliff. this deal will only get done by president obama and john boehner making a deal. they came close in the summer of 2011. the parties are so polarized and partisans polarized this is a problem. >> i keep saying we need a presidential historian or hostage negotiator. somebody could say we've been at stalemates before, gotten over it, shut down the government in '96. tip o'neill and ronald reagan managed to solve problems and get along. listen to what john mccain said about what we need here. >> it's time now to sit across the table from one another, rather than -- in the way they did with ronald reagan and the way you get things done in washington. >> the way they did with ronald reagan and get things done in washington. you sit together and figure it out. they were at a holiday party they didn't talk to each other. they're issuing sort of statements and rebuttals and saying i'm not going to budge. >> negotiation by press release. this is not how things get done in washington and part of the problem of the growing incivility in washington. people don't work together the way th
in the fight over the fiscal cliff. a deal has to be hammered out in 26 days or all of us will be dealing with heavy-handed tax hikes and sweeping cuts. the two sides are keeping details of the discussion yesterday under wraps. thil standing their ground on tax hikes for the top 2%. >> the revenues we're putting on the table are going to come from, guess who, the rich. >> once republicans acknowledge that rates are going up for top earners, we believe that an agreement is very achievable. >> kate baldwin is live from washington, d.c. really nice to see you, kate. i know i went into this saying that we're light on details. i'm wondering if you know anything else, are we closer to an agreement. >> i think we're a long way from a deal. although it's one issue they're fighting about. politically they are still very far apart. the two men as you mentioned, the president and speaker boehner did speak for the first time yesterday, the first time in a week which i guess at this point in and of itself is significant because there isn't much talking going on outside of that. but neither side is off
expected to talk about the so-called fiscal cliff deal, but he may also weigh in on dan's just-passed right to work law and the big changes in store for a state considered the birthplace of organized labor. tomorrow the governor is expected to sign into law legislation that will bar unions from taking mandatory dues out of workers' paychecks, and many are asking how we got to this point in michigan of all states. joining me now, bernard whitman, former pollster for bill clinton and author of "52 reasons to vote for obama," or why people should be glad they voted for obama i guess after the fact, bernard, and also gretchen ham hamil. panel, welcome to you both. this is something. we've seen these right-to-work states becoming more and more popular, almost half the states in the night that are going right to work, but, gretchen, let me "street smart" with you on this -- start with you on this as a republican. >> well, you have to look at the past two years in michigan, some of the highest unemployment rates over the past two years reaching nearly 15% and currently 9.2%. so you see a state the
a chance looking bad by leaving town before making a deal on the fiscal cliff. what's going on? if you take an aspirin to prevent heart trouble check the labor. our own dr. sanjay gupta tells us what a new study says about the effects of coated tablets. we'll also hear what happened during in flight emergency during one of the world's newest high-tech planes. i'm wolf blitzer, you're in the situation room. >>> with just 27 days to go until all of us are hit with tax increases, takes it across the board a cut of $55 billion. people have it in their power to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff aren't negotiating, they're not debating right now, so many of them simply leaving town. but there's more going on than meets the eye. let's bring in our senior congressional correspondent dana basch, she has the latest. >> reporter: there's so much political theater around here right now, you could say tickets. one of today's acts was the house leaving. lawmakers streaming out of the capitol hill, racing to their cars to get to the airport and go home. it's a scene you usually see on a thursday afternoon
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. >> trying to get two sides come together to come to a deal on the fiscal cliff. >> i don't know about young people's abilities to force cats and dogs and democrats and republicans to come together to find a deal. he had a much more profound message than just simply dancing in that clip, in that psa essentially. he was trying to alert young people to the fact that old people, bluntly, are organized. look at the army of aarp representatives that ensure that programs like medicare and social security, programs that take up something like 50% of our federal budget will remain intact and won't be subjected to the necessary reform to last for young people to ever reach them. the problem is that young people don't think life goes on after the age of 30. if you're on twitter and facebook, that's a long way away. why are you worried about entitlements? >> the funny thing is that president obama is using social media to do the exact same thing. for example, he will visit a virginia middle class family today. they were part of his twitter verse. that's why he chose them. he must think that talking to
in portland. thank you. jenna: as the clock winds down on the looming fiscal cliff one key stumbling block is trying to reach a deal when it comes to spending. when we look at spending we look at things like food stamps. we'll look at the price tag for this safety net program and how it plays into the national debate on debt. >>> plus, some bombshell developments in michigan as governor rick snyder okays new right to work laws. what it means for organized labor. the future of unions in this country as well as our economy next. it's my favorite time of year again and now -- i got a great new way to get deals. it's called bankamerideals, from bank of america. i choose the cash back deals in my mobile or online banking. i just use my bank of america debit or credit card when i pay. and i get as much as 15% cash back -- put into my account. this is cash back on top of other rewards i already get. best of all -- it's free. happy holidays. [ male announcer ] introducing bankamerideals, free for online banking customers. sign in to your online banking to choose your deals today. jenna: new inform
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, obviously, second part is to deal with the fiscal cliff and he's put entitle and spending cuts on the table and i think really, the issue here is whether republicans are going to be on the tax rates for the upper income folks. if that happens i think we'll have an agreement. if it it doesn't we could go over the fiscal cliff and right now the economy is in a fragile position. >> no one can argue with that one. a lot of criticism on both sides and a lot pointing to republicans that they want to see the fiscal cliff happen. is there any upside if we actually go over the cliff? >> there's no upside if we go over the cliff and what you've seen the last couple of weeks is political theater. that's how we negotiate things here in washington d.c. and the good news, the president put forth a plan and republicans have put forth a plan and i believe that obama will have to come to the table with more spending cuts and entitlement reform and republicans might have to give in to some tax increases and the cbo do a recent report, saying if republicans get what they want in extending the entire bush tax
on that "fiscal cliff." >> there will be no deal without a compromise on taxes. >> state lawmakers fixing their cars on your dime. >> as a taxpayer, you know, it's my money going to it so it's certainly frustrating. >> oakland police fend off the feds. >> most importantly, what they avoid is a complete federal takeover something that would be an embarrassment for the city. >> i have documentation that proves the intense corruption at all levels of the belizian government. >> busted and heading back to belize. silicon valley tycoon john mcafee is now under arrest. >> the dungeness crab season just got started and already, the boats are idle. >> from across the bay -- >> it's just imagine cal for me. >> -- to around the world, the stories that matter on "eyewitness news this morning." >> your realtime captioner: linda marie macdonald captions by: caption colorado comments@captioncolorado.com >>> good morning, it's thursday, december 6. i'm michelle griego. >> hi, everyone. i'm frank mallicoat. it is 6:30 on this thursday. >>> a broken hydrant left a wet mess in downtown san francisco. road
go over the fiscal cliff and taxes go up for everyone. >> if there is in deal do you blame the republicans for ruining christmas? >>governor huckabee: the grinch that stole christmas they are called republicans. the media will spend this as the republicans will not come to the table but the republicans came to the table. they brought out $800 billion of taxes. what did they get in nothing. they got balloon juice because the democrats said here is the deal. we will thing about some cuts. we are not sure when or how much or where but we will get back to you. you go lady and raise the taxes. people if the republican party can tut go for that although they will get blamed for the disaster and the train wreck this is coming. >>neil: i tell people to look at coverage and say, did you wonder why republicans are obstinate wanting to hike taxes more, but, democrats are not when they don't want to cut spending? i say you go with the republicans on the tax thing it should be more and should be raised or should be this, fine, then apply the same standard to democrats when it comes to s
can't strike a deal by year's end, to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. that's when automatic tax hikes and spending cuts would take effect. new york's senator charles schumer says the government usually has a hands-off policy when it comes to disaster money. >> the federal government has had a view for 100 years. when god's wrath strikes, it's so overwhelming at local its, -- localities, even big ones like new york can't handle it on their own. >> you don't know for sure? >> you don't know for sure n. washington, who knows? >> reporter: many sandy victims say they're so concerned with putting their lives back together that they don't even know what is going on in washington. and they've never even heard the fiscal cliff. >> this is news to me. i didn't hear that part. >> reporter: anthony spent sunday, seeking fema dollars. he's homeless and can't understand how congress can help cut vital budgets like fema's? >> crazy. doesn't make sense. we need it down here. and there's a -- people down here a lot more destitute than me. >> reporter: con
, the speaker and president obama, that they were working through a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. now a number of democrats have been pushing back saying we have not been excluded. nancy pelosi says she has spoken to the president. there are also a number of republicans saying that they are involved. michael steele, who was a spokesman for the speaker said, if we are going to solve this problem, the white house and speaker have important roles. the bottom line is that it's probably the president and speaker doing the heavy lifting on this but we will see what speaker boehner has to say. we'll have that for you live at the top of the hour. >>> in the meantime, amazing new video from nasa. you may have already seen these incredible pictures. look at this. this is the earth at night illuminated by city lights across the planet. but there's this new report about whether nasa can maintain its leadership role in space exploration. let me bring informer space shuttle engineer, james oberg. it's been a while. thank you, james. >> hello, chris. >> the council is saying that nasa is at a crossroads and
.s. will reach a deal to avoid a fiscal cliff. >> net flicks have reached a multi-year agreement to show disney movies after they finish their run in theaters. net flicks' outbid premium pay-tv services such as hbo, showtime and the current rights holders which is stars. the deal will allow net fixed stream disney movies over the internet, seven months after they leave theaters starting in 2016. the financial terms of the deal had not been released. >> the striking clerical workers reached a tentative agreement. the strike rig is shippers from delivering good spirit chips have been stacked up offshore. it was estimated the strike cost the local economy $8 billion a day. >> we will be right back as the kron 4 morning news continues. we are watching the storm moving to the bay area. and line of heavy rain leading san raphael. and southern marin county over the golden gate in san francisco look out. rain moving in your direction. welcome back to the kron 4 morning new as i have been watching the river and creek levels around the bay area. checking out the russian river which is close to flooding.
these numbers? two, can he use these numbers to bolster his case for a deal on the fiscal cliff? >> the answer first of all, f they were to dahl me i would say don't take a victory lap because it's 7.7% unemployment. if you are under employed or you have stopped looking or don't have a job at all, you don't want to here that this is happy days are here again. >> bill: you he we are moving in the right direction? >> right. >> we have made progress but we have a long way to go. there are too many people out of work. >> the last thing we want to do is as the congressional budget has said if we go over the fiscal cliff, it will increase unemployment to 9%. this is thought the time for the cliff to go into effect. it's why everyone is saying don't do this. long time, too big of a deficit reduction. we need something longer term and more gradual. >> that's his argument. this gives him a lot more ammunition, it seems to me, in dealing with a congress saying this proves that we are moving in the right direction and the worst thing we could do would bring everything to
. >>> most americans say our leaders will keep us from falling off the fiscal cliff 20 days from now. that's according to a news pal. 51% say president obama and congress will cut a deal to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. john boehner says he still has serious differences with the president after they exchanged new counteroffers apparently and talked on the phone last night. now some house republicans are vowing to work through the holidays to get the deal done. ed henry is live at the white house. that's a motivator i suppose, lose your christmas. >> normally when there is a holiday like that, you're right. this forces them to come to the table. right now they are still pretty far apart. there was a phone call you last night between the president and the speaker. officials on both sides telling me tonight the call was pretty tense because the bottom line is they are still not finding common ground. you listen to the speaker today, jay carney from the white house podium, they're still saying that they're farther apart on both spending cuts and tax increases. take a listen. >
to raise revenues and cut spending. during a fla tla debate on the fiscal cliff today, the house will not adjourn for the holidays until they have reach add deal. >>> on wall street today it was a mixed day on the market. the dow jump td almost 83 points t. nasdaq fell about 23 points and the s & p 500 was up a little more than two points. >>> anger over action by egypt's new president turned into another violent protest today outside the presidential pals a. there are reports some demonstrators broke through barbed wire and hurled chairs and rocks at police and that people in support of the president beat some protesters with clubs. president morsey angered many people with the decree last month that gave him more power. secretary of state hilary clinton said today the unrest shows an urgent need for dialogue on both sides. >>> the u.s. state department confirmed today it is looking into reports that syrian president may be seeking asylum in another country. reportedly president is look to latin america for asylum for his family and members of his inner circle. the priority righ
insistence that key to the u.s. beginning to pay down its debt and avoid going over the fiscal cliff is raising tax rates on the wealthiest americans. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up, and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: if republicans agree to do that, the president told bloomberg television, he'll agree to serious spending cuts. republicans have offered to raise taxes on higher incomes by $800 billion, not by raising tax rates, but by eliminating some deductions and loopholes. during last year's budget showdown, the president said he wanted to do exactly that. >> what we said was give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues, which could be accomplished without hiking tax rates, but could simply be accomplished by eliminating loopholes, eliminating some deductions and engaging in a tax reform process that could have lowered rates generally while broadening the base. >> reporter: but now the president does not. he says it will not raise enough revenue. >> it's not me being stubborn. it's not me being partisan. it's just a m
-- danielle nottingham, wjz eyewitness news. >> they said a fiscal cliff compromise must include new revenue and spending cuts. he calls it stupidity for the republicans to speculate which party has more to lose if they don't reach a deal. >>> let's take a live look outside. look at that sunset. sunny, wubrisk. -- but brisk. bob is here with updated numbers. >> you bet. beautiful shot. sun is going down about 5 minutes from now. say goodbye. it will take a while. take a look at temps. just a few high clouds at 40 degrees. 44 in d.c. remember, monday and tuesday, we got up to 70. 34 now in oakland. 41, ocean city. tomorrow, we'll have an area of low pressure passing to our west. it will bring us clouds and maybe a little rain in the afternoon. to our north, it will be just maybe cold enough early in the day. could be a little bit of light, freezing drizzle up across portions of central or northern pennsylvania. so we'll be warming up, above 50 degrees again tomorrow. and milder for the weekend. denise? >> okay, bob. thank you let's check on
to go until the country could go off that fiscal cliff and unfortunately for all of us both sides seem to be digging in their heels while insisting they do want a deal. if they can't find some compromise before the end of this year, taxes will go up for everybody and some massive spending cuts will kick in. president obama has rejected the latest profile bit republicans because it does not include a -- proposal by the republicans because it does not include a tax hike on the wealthy americans offering instead to close some tax loopholes, danielle nottingham with the latest from capitol hill. >> reporter: house members left the capitol in the middle of the fiscal fight not due back until next week, but house speaker john boehner is staying behind ready to sit down with the president. >> we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> reporter: president obama is rejecting the republican proposal because it does not raise taxes on households making over $250,000 a year. the gop is offering to close tax loopholes and limit deductions instead. >> revenues we're putting on the table wi
-term question, are they getting closer to avoiding the fiscal cliff? that's the short-term. 23 days that we just heard. the second question is the longer-term question. can they reach a deal which actually leads to a grand bargain next year? that's really the bigger question and more consequential question. senator corker today, he said he's ready to raise the tax rate, which has been so contentious, and was a breakthrough. he also said, listen, if we give him his tax rate, we may be able to hold the total package of tax revenues at half of what the president is asking for. the president wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes. and corker's saying, if we just do the rate, we can hold it to half that. so you could -- we could get a short-term agreement that avoids the cliff but it could mean that the long-term agreement is much smaller than what the president and economists and others really want. >> you have gad sources there. are sources telling you anything about what happened behind closed doors? >> i have not heard anything. this is all broken in the last, you know, hour or two. so i have not heard
approach to dealing with the fiscal cliff. now, this morning, mr. president, i listened to speaker boehner where he said the ball is in the president's court. i couldn't disagree more with the speaker of the house. and i think it's important to point out that since we've been working on trying to deal with this deficit issue, we have already agreed to over a trillion dollars of cuts in spending. it's in discretionary domestic spending, some of the most challenging areas that affects our most vulnerable people. we've implemented that. this is since the recommendations of the simpson-bowles commission came out. we took action. we imposed caps on discretionary dome spending. our federal work force has been through years, a couple years of pay freezes. we've seen programs that have been cut back on the support that they give people who need help. so we've already contributed on the spending side. is it enough? no. do we need to do more? absolutely. but we've done that. the next piece that must be done is the revenue piece. you can't have a balanced approach unless you have the revenues. smeen
. this one danced to music performed by the u.s. navy band. >>> all the talk about the fiscal cliff may seem like a far off debate over politics in washington, but the reality is if lawmakers and the president don't cut a deal by the end of the month, every american will feel the effects. here is cnn's lisa sylvester. >> reporter: at this restaurant in arlington, virginia, plenty of food and drink. but there's something else cooking up, worry. co-owner jonathan williams concerned about the pending government fiscal cliff. >> there's a real simple correlation. people have jobs, they spend money. if people are worried about losing their jobs or don't have a job, then they're not going to go out that much. they're going to cook at home or stay at home. >> reporter: just a couple miles from the pentagon, many of the patrons here work directly or indirectly for the defense department and its contractors. the defense industry is facing $55 billion in discretionary spending cuts next year. unless congress acts to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. in addition, several key tax benefits are scheduled
't really answer. >> tax rates. are you -- is there no deal at the end of the year if tax rates for the top 2% aren't the clinton tax rates, period. no ifs, ands or buts on that specific aspect of the fiscal cliff. >> with respect to the tax rates, i want to emphasize, i am open to new ideas. i'm not going to slam the door in their face. i want to hear -- i want to hear ideas from everybody. >> that's not a no. here is the treasury secretary timothy geithner. >> there's no agreement that doesn't involve the rates going up on the top 2%. >> not necessarily going up to the clinton era rates. just going up. today at a press conference at the capital, bain got a question about this. listen carefully to how he responded or didn't respond. >> you did speak with the president earlier this week. can you characterize this call? and also we understand that he just is making clear that it's got to be increasing rates for the wealthy or no deal. are you willing to give a little bit? maybe just not all the way to 39.6? >> the phone call was pleasant, but just more of the same. the conversations that the
in the fiscal cliff talks. raising the medicare eligibility age from 65 to 67. why would democrats offer it? are they really going to do it? to get a tax deal done they would do that? the idea was first brought up during the grand bargain talks of 2011. the white house seemed open to the concept at the time. >> it's been reported the president is willing to look at things like raising the retirement age and medicare, additional savings in medicare. >> now a democratic aide tells the new republic the president put it on the table once before. i wouldn't be surprised if he did it once again. for progressives it's a bad idea, because medicare is a program that works. and raising the retirement age isn't going to solve the problem at all. in fact, raising the eligibility age would shift costs elsewhere. but republicans seem ready for a fight with the president. >> he is afraid of going into a progressive meeting and say if we don't adjust the age for retirement, it means to benefits for social security and medicare, they're going to go bankrupt. >> nancy pelosi was skeptical about the possible
creditors and there may be others in the pipeline. bill: negotiations on that fiscal cliff and his first one-on-one television interview since reelection president obama says he will only agree to a deal that raises tax rates on top earners. >> we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or cut our way out of this deficit problem. we are going to need more revenues. in order to do that that start with higher rates for the folk at the top. the reasonien, the reason i say that is not to punish success or go after folk just because they are wealthy. it's a simple proposition that you can't raise enough revenue and if you don't raise enough revenue through closing loopholes abductions, it's going to be middle class families that make up the difference. bill: john boehner will speak later this hour. we'll see how he responds to that comment. if washington can't get a deep, automatic tax increases and massive spending cuts do take effect. martha: west virginia senator joe manchin, a democrat discussing the fiscal cliff, social security within medicare. he believes they must be run more ef
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